eastend joker
10:37 Wed Sep 29
Re: Why do good football managers become bad managers when they change clubs?
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i think it all depends on the degree of freedom they get within a particular club on team make up and transfers ,
as has been pointed out Nuno is lumbered with Alli and Dyier , until that club moves these two and Kane on and gives the money to the manager to invest as he feels they are only going one way .
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BRANDED
10:04 Wed Sep 29
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Dynamics
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Sven Roeder
9:45 Wed Sep 29
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Spoke to the Wolves fan at work & reckons Nuno was great for them but he was basically well organised and safety first and obviously had brought in most of the players he had to fit that.
Spurs had about 10 managers on the wish list before him and there was a hint of desperation about the appointment.
He and they probably think they should be more adventurous and not sure that is HIM.
Said the other day he should have insisted they take the Kane money (his opinion may not have mattered) and got players he wanted in & based the team around Son.
Day 1 I would have binned Alli & Dier too.
Think he is a good manager at the wrong club and hopefully he gets a bumper payout and then a more suitable job when they sink.
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angryprumphs
9:15 Wed Sep 29
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Alfs 3:41 Wed Sep 29
Because the bigger the club, the less time you have to get your shit together before knee jerk people start questioning you.
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Sydney_Iron
8:26 Wed Sep 29
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Players as well, just look at Haller!!! FFS, the big moody cunt has well and truly re found the back of the net since going to Ajax, even F Anderson i noticed got the winner for Lazio last weekend, so must be playing well enough to get into first team top level football again.
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zico
8:13 Wed Sep 29
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I think a lot of it is down to whether the players listen and want to learn, especially those who think they are bigger than the new incoming Manager who maybe hasn't won anything. As others have said though Managers don't get time these days. Saw a table of Man United Manager records the other day and Moyes wasn't actually doing that badly compared to those who have been there since Fergie but whoever took it was on a hiding to nothing. Same goes with players though. Look at Sanchez going from being a top player at Arsenal and thgen going to Man Utd. Where is he now?!?!
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Sydney_Iron
7:39 Wed Sep 29
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Nuno has been at Spurs how long? Bit premature to write him off just yet, was manager of the month for August! What a fickle sport football is sometimes, flavour of the month, lose 3 games and your shit!
Be more than happy if he does do badly, saying that I quite like him, just a shame he chose to go to Spurs.
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Darby_
5:42 Wed Sep 29
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Maybe they don’t turn bad? Maybe they’re just written off and sacked as soon as they have a bad run?
As opposed to the old days when fans and owners spent years patiently waiting for someone like Sir Alex Ferguson to come good. That doesn’t happen any more. If they have a bad run, they’re written off as failures before they can turn it around.
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the straw
4:06 Wed Sep 29
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Nuno basically got a CM97/98 data editor and added Neves, Jimenez, Patricio and Moutinho to his Division 1 Wolves save.
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